+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Olympia Times issue g2-39 | | November 11, 1997 | | | | turn 39 243 players http://www.pbm.com/ | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Questions, comments, to play: firstname.lastname@example.org
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From a vision of one of the PLATO attack stacks:
18: Declared attitudes: 18: hostile 1109 1384 1388 1484 1660 1792 1820 2005 2027 2142 2197 18: 2237 2455 2493 2513 2611 2717 2786 2944 3090 3259 3339 18: 3520 3631 3690 3890 3974 4085 4195 4339 4551 4610 4841 18: 5258 5341 5342 5482 5697 5926 6157 6188 6284 6292 6356 18: 6494 6590 6606 6693 7489 7741 7747 7801 7813 7835 7859 18: 7871 8110 8115 8194 8331 8372 8382 8444 8485 8524 8526 18: 8663 9009 9158 9198 9409 9494 9664 9666 9680 9881 9999
Less than a fourth of these belong to New Empire nobles.
Although PLATO doesn't appear to want to listen, I will try one more time. Based on a recent post to the g2-list, PLATO seems to believe that if a noble was in the area garrisoned by the New Empire, it must be a member.
The New Empire now consists of only four factions. Until the invasion, we allowed other factions free reign in our lands as long as they didn't interfere with our resource collection or attempt military action. Most of the nobles on the above list were nobles that were taking advantage of our open policies, and not members of the New Empire. Current New Empire factions will not attempt to identify themselves as noncombatants, so any faction or noble that says it is not a member is truly not a member. Please note that the faction that sent the "newbies YUCK" message to the list has never been a member of the New Empire.
If you are on the list and would rather not be involved, contact one of the PLATO factions to see about getting off it (good luck, but don't get your hopes up.) I would strongly recommend against contacting Oleg, as he doesn't seem to be very open to reason.
By the way, in response to Oleg's post to the g2-list, I offered to show anyone who asked the entire exchange between Oleg and myself, rather than just "selective quotations". Frankly, seeing the quotations in context makes Oleg look even more rabid than what I included in the last Times. If you want to see what Oleg considers to be "diplomacy", just ask.
As always, if you wish to join the fight against the oppressors, contact me at email@example.com.
-- Banquo's Ghost [ah7]
Welcome All to Pasha's Merchant Sale!!
Come to ck29 (Mountain area) and visit our merchant, PASHA, at the Inn of the Holy Grail (9884) where you can purchase or sell goods. Each month we will post our items for sale and purchase. We offer quality goods at a fair price! Item's come and go so get there early get yours FIRST. No guarantee items will be available all month long. Here's next months (T40) items:
- 15 Riding Horses  @ 70 GPs EACH - 10 Longbows  @ 25 GPs EACH - 10 Longswords  @ 12 GPs EACH - 42 Woven Baskets  @ 1 GP EACH - 10 Drums  @ 5 GPs EACH - 4 Clay Pots  @ 1 GPs EACH
You don't see it? Ask! More to come....
- 3 Warmounts @ 130 GPs EACH - 20 Wood @ 8 GPs EACH
Want to sell it? Tell me what it is, and I'll make you an offer.
Finally, no combat is allowed. Attack us at the risk of WAR. You are NOT ALLOWED to enter ANY of the other areas at this location OR to RECRUIT any peasants at this location or its immediate surrounding areas. NOBLEs caught violating these rules will be dealt with.
Peace and long life,
-- Guardian Brightstar, Lord and Commander, Guardians of the Realm --
-- Guardians of the Realm [bs2]
>In 6 months, PLATO will rule Camaris.
*ahem* This is rumor control.
The Crimson Alliance, based in Camaris, has a treaty with PLATO and the Draconian Alliance. This treaty forbids any hostilities between the above named alliances on the continent of Camaris; there will be no aggressive posturing by any of the parties or their mercenaries or associates.
This does not mean the Crimson Alliance agrees with the PLATO action on Provinia. It is difficult to believe anything, as the propaganda flows like wine on a holiday when your mooching friends have shown up to partake and won't leave even when you've blown out the lanterns and stopped feeding the fire. In view of this whirlwind of noise, the Crimson Alliance does not condone or condemn the New Empire attack at this time.
In conclusion, Camaris will not be under the exclusive rule of PLATO in six months.
[Crimson Alliance != Crimson Citadel. Different entities, different alliance, different members.]
-- Eridanus [gh2]
If there are any factions claiming land in the vicinity of the Imperial City, would they please contact me to discuss these claims. I would very much like to establish good relations with all of my neigbours, and wish to avoid any prolems resulting from conflicting land claims. Also, I am still looking for beasts. If anyone has any interesting specimens, I would be glad to pay a reasonable price for them.
-- Clan Dragonsbane [rk8]
My (finally) _updated_ page for all G2 players is still up at:
You can send contributions, comments or suggestions to me at:
firstname.lastname@example.org or email@example.com
Things may get updated a little slowly in the future due to demands of my job, so please bear with me and keep the contributions coming.
-- Stahl & Stein [rm4]
Anyone interested in purchasing an inn in province bt51, directly south of Greyfell, please contact me via diplomatic e-mail. I am leaving the area, and am willing to sell cheap. No semi-reasonable offer will be turned down.
-- The Invisible Man 
When I saw reports of a rather big army approaching the free city of Toppe, I immediately reacted and posted this message to the owner of Cernennos, who is the stackleader of this army. The army consists of about 350 men, rather big just to come over and have a cup of tea.:
>>When inspecting our garrison-reports we saw you and your friends heading for Toppe. Is there >>something we can do for you, or do you have another goal? We are surprised with such a sudden visit >>and we hope to hear from you soon to know the reason. Please send this messenger back with some >>answers. Looking forward hearing from you.
I don't think I have taken an aggressive maneuver with this mail, it was just a question that had to be answered. This is the surprising answer coming from the army:
>It is our understanding that inside the Fence can be found certain nobles who we believe may intend us >harm. Some of these have been seen hiding out in the Broken down palace, formerly the Crimson Citadel. >This has made us curious, & since we saw that you had lots of troops, we thought we'd bring >lots too, just to be on the safe side.
Well, the facts are these, never has any of the nobles that are in Toppe even been in Azrain or the Crimson Citadel. The nobles who are in Toppe are nobles of factions who started just 7 to 10 turns ago. I think that Plato is looking for means to justify their aggressive approach to the rest of the world, Smoothtalking Gregg Lindahl just doesn't want just to say: "Go away, we will destroy you". It would remind the rest of the fellow olympians of the harsh language FOX has used when he was still in the game. But let's go and look to the following:
>Let me be even more frank: we wish for Empire people to leave Provinia. Or at least to go so far that they >are not an obvious threat. The entire tenor of the _Times_ attacks against Plato & of various letters we >have received has made us rather edgy.
Well, look's like Mister Lindahl is quite a bit annoyed, he lost a word fight with Mister Hughes and is taking on the suppressed aggressive approach. Here is the reply that I then gave, I explained him the true story of the nobles in Toppe and that I, if they are proven to be evil and guilty, would give them a fair trial, not just an inquisition.
>>Your message sounds very surprising to us. It might be possible you saw some nobles coming into our >>castle, but these traders are just here to do business with us and besides, these are all nobles that are >>fairly new to the game (called newbies) because, as far we know, they came from another plane to >>Olympia just 10 months ago... By the campfire in the castle they told us stories of being captured by an >>invading force and spectacular escapes. Maybe you can lets know which nobles you mean and, who >>knows, maybe we can give them a fair trial...
Well, it is obvious, we posted the message that we would look into the matter and that we would give fair trial's when it deemed necessary. But this is the following reply of Gregg Lindahl, or one of his minions:
>Those are interesting stories. However, we have seen _inside_ the Crimson citadel some of those who are >inside your castle now. We find it difficult to believe that the Empire would let non-allies into their >castle.
Well, here everything clears out, they have never been in the crimson citadel, that is not possible, maybe Mister Lindahl should really think about it, but here is the follwing chapter of the mail discussion:
>>Another puzzling thing to us is why did you bring an army??? We have troops to defend us, if necessary, >>but if the only problems are some nobles in our castle (maybe they are long gone by now) why didn't >>you send us a message in stead of an army ??? With some communication you can avoid some mistakes, >>that is, if you want mistakes to be avoided... or are you looking for a reason to attack us, perhaps ???
This is the next chapter I wrote to Plato, I asked why Plato brings an army, I knew the answer but wanted to loosen a reaction, either of Mister Lindahl or one of his minions, this is the rest of our mail:
>>Leave us in peace and take your striking force elsewhere and send us a message with explanations about >>those "certain nobles that intend to harm you" so we can go on with our peacefull lives...
The answer of Plato is the following, just plain and simple:
>No. We will come & settle this face to face, as it were.
Okay, that's it, maybe with this mail, it would get obvious that Plato doesn't just stopped when they conquered the new empire, they even go to great lengths just to destroy any neutral faction too. They seek lame excuses for destroying your territory, they attack anyone and everyone. The mail from Gregg Lindahl about the newbie factions in the neighbourhood making themselves known is just a trick to facilitate the cleansing they are performing. Maybe Plato (Gregg Lindahl and his minions) should seek out who the new empire really is and destroy them, if they really have done that much harm, which I doubt very much. But I give a tip for Plato Lindahl: maybe you should check out your 'allies' for any connections with the empire. I am talking about territory lying to the east of plato. Maybe Plato shouldn't leave their borders open to the east.
In the mean time, we are trying to defend ourselves, we have created an army, but that isn't enough to hold the horde that is standing at our front door.
I read the list and saw that a certain Wallace asks for an explanation, well with this maybe thinks are clearer to him know, if Plato really is a front of the AOO, we should all watch out and defend ourselves from this threat. Things are beginning to look like olympia game one, the same tactics are used anyway. If Plato wants power, maybe they should pay a visit to duke MARAT and his 30000 dragons. Or is duke marat in the game already???????
Eowyn, an innocent bystander.
-- Eowyn 
Let it be known: Merlin d'Arcy, dba [doing business as] The Magikal Mystery Tour is in the process of establishing routes and runs for both drayage and passangers in the environs of Southern Provinia. Fares and rates negotiable. Armed parties must provide proof they are welcome at their destination. The carrier retains the right to refuse delivery should specifics prove to be misrepresented. Cargos and passangers may be refused service with out charge. Combat capable passangers may be required to be transfered during transit.
-- Merlin d'Arcy 
Zarashand did it. Here I am in a whole new world. The war of my homeland is a distant memory. All I need to do now is summon Zarashand and my other noble followers and we can begin to explore this beautiful land. All I know is that this is a town called Greyfell and that I must make contact with as many people in the region as possible. What I'll do is etch my name into this stone and then anyone that wants to contact me can send a courier..... 'POZZIE@HOTMAIL.COM' was here. There, now anyone around Greyfell can contact me and we can discuss the surrounding area. I hope any- one new to the game will take this opportunity to talk about alliances
Lee of The Syr-Antin
-- Lee The Brave 
The Draconian Alliance is pleased to announce that it has reached a satisfactory arrangement with PLATO concerning recent events in Yellowleaf that limits hostilites to that area. It is our hope that as a result Camaris will continue to enjoy the benefits of peace.
-- Baelrath 
The Illustrated Man still thinks of himself as a down-home (albeit highly decorated) merchant, and is amazed to find himself involved in all of this diplomacy wrangling. However, he is attempting to rise to the challenge by installing a second floor to his shop, complete with a roaring fire and nice comfy chairs for the various factions who come to him seeking treaties and advice. An occasional rock gets hurled through a window by one of the Empire refugees, but the IM figures they've got plenty of reasons to want to vent, so he doesn't mind. From his new second story, the Yellowleaf area looks quiet. The refugees don't seem to be doing much, and there is the usual hustle and bustle of newbies gearing up and moving out. It seems hard to believe that the largest battle of Olympia was fought only a few miles to the west; everything looks peaceful and serene. As the Yellowleaf HQ of his alliance, he's been asked to put the following handbill in his shop window: "The Inner Circle, in accordance with treaties with its neighbors, now lays claim to the following territory: all of the Provinian peninsula lying to the east of column 80, and all of Provinia lying both east of column 77 and north of row df Those who wish to travel through our territory should get in touch with me to explain your intentions (since we're a peninsula, it isn't as if we're on the way to anyplace else). All are welcome to Gaytforth and Elantir, but please check with me before dealing in trade goods in these cities. No structures are permitted without advance notice." Whew. Now there's nothing to do but wait until the new stock comes in. The future promises to bring some exciting new items to our showroom. Oh, and about the Empire's accusations. We've never said that we were neutral once the fighting began. We looked carefully at both sides, and PLATO simply looked like a better deal for us. (The fact that there wasn't much left of the Empire made our decision even easier.) But like any good merchants, we'd be willing to do business with both sides; sorry the Empire doesn't feel the same way.
-- The Illustrated Man 
I curse you, my foe. Whatever you gain in enmity shall turn against you. Whatever you plunder from me shall bring you misery. Whatever gold you take shall buy your grave. My doors are forever closed to you. The sorrow shall be yours alone. I shall only laugh, and my friends shall dance on your dying day.
-- Sir Codric 
I am extremely unamused at Banquo's Ghost's selective quotations from my diplomatic notes. If anyone wants to know what I really think, they are welcome to ask. Or, if you want a distorted picture from someone with an axe to grind, ask Banquo's Ghost.
For the record, I don't dislike newbies. What I dislike is Banquo's Ghost going on for page after page about how he's helping newbies by inciting them to attack me and my allies. Meanwhile, not a single non-Empire faction harmed in our Yellowleaf operations has written me. If they do, I will settle their claims against us. Or, if you're in the market for a nice mine, inn, or tower, I can give you one that used to be the Empire's.
Banquo's Ghost had a chance for peace. He threw it away. Now he will whine for many months about how we never offered him peace. He should consider paying attention to reality instead of his odd fantasy within a fantasy.
-- Oleg the Loudmouth 
To Entwaidamela, my most generous and honorable lord:
We are in possession of your most recent communique, and are humbled and honored at your praise. We ordered your many generous words proclaimed among the army, and the men were heartened. They raised loudly a clamor of sword and spear upon shields, as to startle the beast and birds of the field to flight. They were afeared the meager foes we fought, won them little honor or glory in accord of their station. The interminable maneuvering, with no foes defeated whom were worthy of their number, left them half convinced they had failed in their duty. So was the revelation of the success of our strategem a balm to their spirits. Though they will never realize the maxim, that in war, "It is the battles you could fight, not alone the ones you do, that are the path to victory;" victory has affirmed their faith in duty discharged obediently and honorably.
We are pleased to report, that the Army of the West is obedient to the will of our most noble lord Ming. This season past, we have had only minor skirmishes with known felons against the peace, and have undertaken no action against any whom openly declared their purpose. We have exercised our discretion given in your last though, and continue on our trek yet one more turning of the lady's face. We must needs risk the wrath of Ming, or his displeasure at our failure, and strike down rumors of the bringers of chaos yet about the land. We near hope for it to prove nothing more than the excited imaginings of fearful serfs. Were all to prove nought, and we were seen as fallible, perhaps it may quiet the voices petitioning our advancement to Imperator and Shogun. Thus allowing this ancient one the pleasure of returning to pursue our avocations upon our Camarii estates. Should we be honored with such laurels we will, as always, fulfill the needs of duty. Even though we pray fervently for the peace of family and hearth, before the lady shall call us to another turning of the wheel.
Your most loyal and obedient Marshal of the West,
-- Cernennos 
-- Captain Arrr 
Houston, the Eagle has landed.
Well, I was going to post another cool war song that I found, but it seems by doing so I could be accused of discriminating against those who think this isn't wargame.
So, in the interests of equity, here is a tune more in line with the interests of those parties.
(Everybody put down your S'Mores and hold hands now...)
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Oh, Lord, kumbaya
The AOO was the PLATO of G1!
Hey, are you frog guys really that disorganized, or are you just posting things for the heck of it? -A bunch of fully operational Crabs near Derokin
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Yvengi is a louse!
From last weeks' TIMES rumors: "PLATO rules South Provinia. In 6 months, PLATO will rule Camaris. Given enough time, PLATO will rule Olympia."
(Brought to you by New Empire Disinformation, trying their best to shed the mantle of Bad Guy and to get others to reconquer Yellowleaf for them... Nice try, plague-breath!)
Official Shadow Alliance Public Announcement. ID 00423-245948
The clock is ticking.
Seems to me that Temujin  is as nervous and vicious in his home city as a dragon brooding eggs.
[The Yellowleaf Resistance]
The way Oleg lives :
Only tell the truth if it hurts more than a lie
[The Yellowleaf Resistance]
Don't believe everything you read. Actually, don't believe anything you read
[The Yellowleaf Resistance]
True evil can take many forms.
[The Yellowleaf Resistance]
A moment of silence for the heroes who died fighting for freedom. Let us hope they didn't die in vain. Let us hope that there will be many many more to fight against evil.
[The Yellowleaf Resistance]