pennsicdance: [SCA-Dance] Payments - another quick followup

Troy Daniels xcvii at alum.mit.edu
Fri May 15 13:02:23 PDT 2009


Interational money orders won't work.  If you look at
http://pe.usps.com/text/imm/immc3_024.htm#ep240954 (one link away form the
usps link below), you find this text, which states that they'll only issue a
money order in US currency. Well, possibly they'll issue it in Canadian
dollars if it's payable in Mexico, but that's not going to help.
Udalrich
(Sorry about the bold text.  Gmail won't let me unbold it.  I'm not trying
to shout.)

371.4 Processing Requirements 371.41 Form Required — International Postal
Money Order (Form MP1)

Use the pink International Postal Money Order (Form MP1) for money
orders payable
to the countries listed in Exhibit
371.2<http://pe.usps.com/text/imm/immc3_024.htm#ep290080>.
Follow the issuance procedures in DMM 503.14.

Note: For money orders payable in Canada the amount of the money order must be
expressed in U.S. currency only. Issuing clerks must use the money order
imprinter in the usual manner printing the amount received in U.S. currency.



On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:50 PM, David Learmonth <
david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi.  Just something someone mentioned to me just now, so just in case, here
> is some more info on requirements from the Canadian side for the US money
> orders:
>
> "I am not sure if you are aware, but there are two variations of  USPS
> (United States Postal Service) Money orders..
>
> There is the standard domestic order (green) and the international order
> (pink).. you'll need people to send you the pink kind, otherwise you will
> be
> unable to cash them. My store sold a lot of stuff on ebay, even when you
> specify this people still get the domestic..."
>
>
> Geez.  Who knew there would be so many complications.
>
> Otherwise, please let me know if you want to come, but are expecting issues
> trying to pay due to these factors, and we'll see what we can do.  Oh, and
> alternatively, if you are near the Canadian border, you could drive across
> to a post office, and buy a Canadian money order here.  It isn't expensive.
> Here is a link:
>
> http://www.canadapost.ca/cpo/mc/personal/ratesprices/shop/moneyorders.jsf
>
>
> Darius
>
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:25 PM, David Learmonth <
> david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > I appreciate the many many responses I've received recommending that we
> set
> > up a Paypal account for this purpose.
> >
> > However, unfortunately, it would seem that SCA rules do not allow the use
> > of Paypal.
> >
> > Although I expect I could have tried to set one up personally, and then I
> > could have written cheques myself on the Canadian side,  I know that both
> > this is ill advised (as it still isn't really proper), AND additionally
> then
> > I might potentially be bearing risks of losing money if there are
> problems.
> >
> > Now, for interest sake, there is a system that we found out about, but it
> > was a bit late for us to get set up on it.  The SCA has set up a system
> > called ACCEPS.  However, besides us not having the time to pursue it, it
> > also had the problem that it would still provide a US funds Cheque I
> believe
> > at the end of the day, which was the main problematic point for us.
> > However, for future KWDSes, they may wish to consider it.
> >
> > So thanks again for the suggestions everyone!  But no, unfortunately it
> > seems we were not allowed to use this method.
> >
> > Darius
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:39 AM, David Learmonth <
> > david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello to our American friends!
> >>
> >> There have been some concerns raised over wording on the website we sent
> >> regarding being unable to get a Canadian funds money order from USPS.
>  (for
> >> pre-registration at KWDS, which closes after tomorrow!)
> >>
> >> So, let me first say that a US funds money order should be fine.  Our
> main
> >> concern was just not to get a US funds Cheque, because a Cheque would
> take
> >> too long to clear between banks / countries, so we wouldn't have the
> money
> >> handy for the required deposits for our site that are coming due
> shortly.
> >>
> >> However, since a Canadian funds money order is better for you based on
> the
> >> exchange rates  (since we can't offer better than 1:1 for the moment
> >> ourselves), I'd recommend still trying for it with USPS or your bank.
>  Here
> >> is some info from our followups with USPS:
> >>
> >> "I just telephoned the US postal service and the woman confirmed that
> yes
> >> they will issue an international money order in Canadian Funds for the
> >> exchange rate + $3.85. I asked her twice to confirm.
> >>
> >>     I hope this is true and you can go back and ask again (I got nowhere
> >> with my other inquiries at banks and visa wrt visa cheques). The number
> I
> >> phoned was (1-800-275-8777) if you want to make an independent inquiry."
> >>
> >>
> >> So, if someone out there does manage to get a Canadian funds money order
> >> via this method, could you please let us know?  I just want to confirm
> that
> >> it is possible on your end, since that seems to be the information we've
> >> been finding.  (despite conflicting info on the website!)  Otherwise, if
> you
> >> still have problems, you could also let us know.
> >>
> >> Thanks everyone!!
> >>
> >> Darius
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 2:32 AM, David Learmonth <
> >> david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello again.  Quick public service announcement.
> >>>
> >>> 1.  Paying for pre-registration at KWDS:  Although USD cheques are a
> >>> possibility, we are unable to offer an exchange rate (just 1:1), and so
> >>> we've been suggesting potentially to get Canadian Dollar money orders.
> >>> Gregory was kind enough to send me a web link that might be useful in
> this
> >>> regard:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.usps.com/money/sendingmoney/sendmoneyinternationally.htm
> >>>
> >>> "At $3.85, it's much cheaper than paying US$ at par, and last time I
> >>> checked my bank will charge me some huge fee for checks cashed in
> >>> Canada."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2.  Passports:  As of June 1st 2009, the rules will come into effect
> that
> >>> you will need a passport to cross the border between Canada and the US,
> even
> >>> by land.  However, it sounds like there may actually be a few options
> >>> available  (such as Nexus card, or perhaps a special driver's license).
>  I'm
> >>> not certain which options are feasible in the 2 months left before the
> >>> event, but here are some web links that hopefully should help.  (I'm
> not a
> >>> US citizen, so hopefully I've got the correct ones):
> >>>
> >>> US Links:
> >>>
> >>> Land Travel:
> >>>
> http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/ready_set_go/land_travel/faqs_lp.xml
> >>>
> >>> Travel in general: http://www.dhs.gov/xtrvlsec/crossingborders/
> >>>
> >>> US Passports:  http://travel.state.gov/
> >>>
> >>> Nexus Program  (not sure how long this takes):
> >>> http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/trusted_traveler/nexus_prog/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Canadian links:
> >>> http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/noncan-eng.html
> >>> http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/contact/bis-sif-eng.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Oh, and always remember:  When travelling with SCAdians across
> >>> International Borders, Learn their REAL NAMES before you get to the
> border!
> >>> It looks really suspicious if you don't know the first name of people
> you
> >>> are travelling with!  :)
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps!  See you at the event!
> >>> Darius
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
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