> Some generic terms are needed, I believe to avoid confusion. I agree. But I think that both "minstrel" and "jongleur" make good generic terms, as they seem to be really broad. Sayeith the OED about minstrel: a. In early use (i.e. down to the end of the 16th c.), a general designation for any one whose profession was to entertain his patrons with singing, music, and story-telling, or with buffoonery or juggling. In modern romantic and historical use commonly with narrowed and elevated application: A medieval singer or musician, esp; one who sang or recited, to the accompaniment of his own playing on a stringed instrument, heroic or lyric poetry composed by himself or others; spec. one of the Old English period. The use of the word in romantic poetry and fiction has so coloured its meaning that the application to a mere jester, mountebank, or conjuror, originally common, would now seem inappropriate. > To teach people about the true Gaelic bard, it is not neccesary > to eliminate the word bard from your vocabulary meaning a generic > performer. But it sure would help. Then again, it would kind of make a mess of the "Militant Society of Bards"; a completely new acronym would be needed. Gregory Blount ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send email to majordomo@pbm.com containing the words "unsubscribe minstrel". To contact a human about problems, send mail to owner-minstrel@pbm.com