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Sat Jul 1 09:33:06 PDT 2006


should be able to take all comers because, after all, we aren't pros and we
only do the stuff we do for fun. >>

  In point of fact, our group was told we could not be "official" and be
listed in the website and newsletter unless we were open to all.

  <<  I somewhat agree with this -- if it's not fun, you probably don't want
to spend what precious free time you have.  Performing groups, though,
within or without the SCA, have goals that are sometimes beyond the reach of
the casual "I just want to hang out and sing/play" crowd.  >>

  Yes!  I had a real dilemma recently when one of our better singers
couldn't  rehearse with the group.  She felt she could pick up the music on
her own.  I felt she needed to blend with the group, and, as importantly,
the group needed to be able to hear *the group* practicing, and if she
wasn't there letting them hear her line, they were going to miss some
important cues.  I refused to let her perform at Twelfth Night, and she left
the group.  People in the group started taking sides, and at this point I'm
taking an extended leave of absence.

  <<  It's very hard for me to ask people to leave, because I really do want
to be as inclusive as possible but, at the same time, I feel the director
has a responsibility to the rest of the group to guide them to the best
possible performance -- no one wants to do a bad or embarrassing public
performance  >>

  I agree completely.
  << This probably would still be OK, but we have a commitment to do our
annual holiday performances outside the SCA at the Huntington Library (about
25 pieces of music of varying degrees of difficulty). >>

  Now, the varying degrees of difficulty may get you out of the predicament.
Can you put the newbies on only those pieces that they *can* handle?

  I had one person who was recovering from smoking for years, and was only
just getting her voice under her.  We had one performance in which she sang
along on a couple of rounds, and helped lead the crowd on a ground.   (Have
any grounds, such as the one in Sumer is Icumen In? There's one song that
has an out and out drone line under two florid lines and a semi-drone.  It
was written by a composer who had a Johnny-one-note king he had to have in a
performance.  It's "Guillaume se va chaufer" or something along those
lines.)

  Do you have any sing alongs?  Newbies can help lead those, if they know
them.  In that case, they're usually ahead of the crowd because they've been
practicing the piece and have the words down.  It gives them something
useful to do.

  Rounds?  Catches?   Dona Nobis Pacem works if you split the voices instead
of cycling them through.  Rise Up o Flame makes a pretty holiday round, and
you can bring in the audience if it's appropriate.

  Then you can save your experienced voices for the showy stuff.

  Vivien

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responsibility to=20
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  size=3D2><SPAN class=3D876132721-07102002>Now, the varying degrees of =
difficulty=20
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alongs?&nbsp;=20
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and have=20
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  do.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face=3DArial><FONT=20
  size=3D2><SPAN class=3D876132721-07102002>Rounds?&nbsp; =
Catches?&nbsp;&nbsp; Dona=20
  Nobis Pacem works if you split the voices instead of cycling them=20
  through.&nbsp; Rise Up o Flame makes a pretty holiday round, and you =
can bring=20
  in the audience if it's appropriate.&nbsp;=20
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  size=3D2><SPAN class=3D876132721-07102002>Then you can save your =
experienced=20
  voices for the showy =
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