minstrel: Re: minstrel digest, Vol 1 #217 - 2 msgs

[Shannon Cox]

greetings everyone i am new to this list i am lady sinnan of the baronay of
concordia of the snows east kingdom.  I am hoping to take the time to get to
know you and learn.

lady sinnan


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>    1. Re: cool instruments (Brett W. McCoy)
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> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 15:37:51 -0400
> From: "Brett W. McCoy" <bmccoy at chapelperilous.net>
> To: nickolas kaugon <ollaimh at yahoo.com>
> CC: minstrel at pbm.com
> Subject: Re: minstrel: cool instruments
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> nickolas kaugon wrote:
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> >however as any one who knows me knows , i had a fire.
> >instruments make lovely fire wood, amd the finishes
> >burn in such pretty colors.  hence went my oud.
> >
> Oh no!
>
> >however the cumbus has an obviously alumunium
> >body--hard not to notice. now i've been to events
> >where steel string guitars were not controversial. i
> >play guitar so i'd borrow one at such an event.
> >
> I have many many guitars, but I don't think I've ever taken them to
> events.  My current obsession is with the kantele (Finnish lap harp).
> It's only got 5 strings, but it sounds soooo cool.
>
> >actually my big event beef is people at bardic fires
> >don't recognize the "magic circle" around performers.
> >in my case this is littered with instruments and
> >equipment. tuning wrenches, strings books etc, that i
> >want right at hand. people will tend to walk right
> >through this and if they do it while i'm singing or
> >playing i have to stop and stop them. that's how stuff
> >gets damaged, people walking over instruments then
> >tripping and all the i'm sories dry up fast when they
> >find the repair billl could be hundreds ot thousands.
> >id there are many players there it isn't such a
> >problem as they will watch other peoples stuff. but
> >i've had people insist they ought to be able to walk
> >the "obviuosly easy" way and argue for minutes about
> >how rude i am to stop them. what do you do? i try to
> >get someone to block people who get this great idea,
> >but i also make anouncements about instruments
> >occasionally as well. sometimes it works and sometimes
> >it doesn't.  because most bardic circles are sans
> >instruments it's hard to raise awareness.
> >
> >
> I tend not to do bardic circles, so I can't say this has ever happened
> to me.    But there is such a thing as common courtesy and when someone
> is performing, it is polite to wait until they are done before getting
> up and walking around or coming into a circle.  I teach this in my
> drumming classes as part of drum circle etiquette also.
>
> -- Istvan
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 13:15:17 -0700
> To: minstrel at pbm.com
> From: Heather Rose Jones <hrjones at socrates.Berkeley.EDU>
> Subject: Re: minstrel: cool instruments
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> At 2:33 PM -0400 5/29/03, nickolas kaugon wrote:
>
> >actually my big event beef is people at bardic fires
> >don't recognize the "magic circle" around performers.
> >in my case this is littered with instruments and
> >equipment. tuning wrenches, strings books etc, that i
> >want right at hand. people will tend to walk right
> >through this and if they do it while i'm singing or
> >playing i have to stop and stop them. that's how stuff
> >gets damaged, people walking over instruments then
> >tripping and all the i'm sories dry up fast when they
> >find the repair billl could be hundreds ot thousands.
> >id there are many players there it isn't such a
> >problem as they will watch other peoples stuff. but
> >i've had people insist they ought to be able to walk
> >the "obviuosly easy" way and argue for minutes about
> >how rude i am to stop them. what do you do?
>
> What I do is to try to avoid leaving things lying around on the
> ground in the dark where people can't see them.  Most campfire
> circles I've been to tend to be rather crowded.  So you walk in out
> of the dark -- your eyes are dazzled by the fire -- you try to slip
> through a break in the wall of chairs and bodies to find an open
> place to sit down -- and suddenly someone's jumping all over you
> because that "open place" had been appropriated for the strewn
> paraphernalia of a performer who can't understand why you didn't see
> all his stuff ... on the ground ... in the dark.
>
> Feel free to bang your head against this particular brick wall if it
> makes you happy, but I confess I'm more in sympathy with the people
> you're complaining about.
>
> When I have instruments and things at a campfire, I try to keep
> things as contained as possible to my own "footprint" (e.g., things
> hanging off or tucked under my chair or bench, or directly in front
> of me between my feet).  It may, on occasion, be a trifle less
> convenient for me, but it's safer and more courteous to the others
> trying to find a place around the fire.  Try to look at these
> situations from everyone else's point of view in addition to your own
> -- there are arrangements that work when you're on a stage that are a
> bit less optimal when you're around a campfire.
>
> Tangwystyl
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