minstrel: bardd

[nickolas kaugon]

hello, in your own definition , at the bottom it gace
muscian as an alternate definition of bardd.

if you have only a dictionary knowledge of a language
you ought to listen to the educated.

this double definition fits with the usage in gaelic
where a muscian and a poet are not separate .

in gaelic bard does mean untrained muscian. the
trained muscian/poets are called filidh(fili in modern
irish). they were required to play the harp and at
least two other instruments, and in thier harp
apprentiship they went through the art of luthiere and
string making.
--- Gwernin at aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 3/7/2003 3:02:45 PM Eastern
> Standard Time, minstrel-request at pbm.com writes:
> 
> > --- nickolas kaugon <ollaimh at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > i assure you it means minstral inaelic. andhas
> for a
> > > few hundred years . in welsh i am no expert but
> i
> > > thought they used a p instead of a b, and in
> welsh
> > > like gaelic, poet and muscian are the same word.
> 
> Not true.  In Modern Welsh bardd = poet:
> 
> from The Welsh Pocket Dictionary / Y Geiriadur Bach
> (only one I have with me at work):
> 
> bardd, eg. ll. beirdd, cyfansoddwr barddoniaeth,
> prydydd, awenydd.  POET.
> 
> barddoni, be. cyfansoddi barddoniaeth, prydyddu.  TO
> COMPOSE POETRY.
> 
> poet, n. bardd, prydydd, awenydd.
> 
> musician, n.  cerddor.
> 
> - Guernen Cimarguid
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