Fwd: Re: minstrel: help with OE

Heather Rose Jones hrjones at socrates.Berkeley.EDU
Thu Feb 15 15:24:39 PST 2001

Just realized I sent this privately rather than to the list.


>>Sorry if this is a double posting--I sent this out about a week and a half
>>ago and neer saw it appear on the list...
>>If anyone has time to help me with the following, I would appreciate it.
>>I'm not sure whether it's supposed to be a fragment of alleged song or epic
>>or filk or what--the last line looks as if it's just modern English
>>translated, but I'm in the middle of a hectic semester lecturing and my
>>lexicon only goes from modern English into OE, not the other way around.
>>I've copied thorns as th and eths as dd because I lived in Wales for too
>>long.  gs are as printed on what was sent me.  (Even knowing it's gibberish
>>would help. There seem to be too many p's to me on a casual glance.)
>>				Cheers, Sela.
>>Praetlic is thes pealstan; pyrde gebraecon,
>>burgstede burston, brosnadd enta gepeorc.
>>Hrofas sins gehrorene, hreorge torras,
>>hrungeat berofen, hrim on lime,
>>scearde scurbeorge scorene, gedorene,
>>Aeldo undereotone.  Eorddgrop hafadd
>>paldendpyrhtan, forpeorone, geleorene
>>heard gripe hrusan, oth hund cnea
>>pertheoda gepitan.  Oft thaes pag gebad,
>>raeghar and readfah, rice aefter othrum,
>>ofstondem under stormum; steap geap gedreas.
>for a bilingual edition.  It's an actual Old English poem (referred 
>to as "The Ruin", although this is probably a modern title).  The 
>version you've given above includes some transcription errors -- 
>e.g., most of the "p"s above are actually the "wynn" character, 
>which is more usefully transcribed "w".
>Or do a Google search on the phrase "burgstede burston" (it's the 
>first phrase that doesn't potentially include weird characters, so 
>it gets more hits).
>Just as a general research strategy, it's absolutely amazing what 
>running short phrases through a good web search engine will turn up!

Heather Rose Jones
hrjones at socrates.berkeley.edu

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