minstrel: Dompe?

Brian L. Rygg or Laura Barbee-Rygg rygbee at montana.com
Wed Jan 12 16:15:29 PST 2000

So . . . (speaking in terms of music, not the emotional state) a dompe/dumpe
is the period version of "the Blues."

Of course, it's not the origin of "down in the dumps" -- the mood came
first, then the music to fit it, by the looks of the other meanings in the

----- Original Message -----
From: Vanessa Layne <dagoura at MIT.EDU>
> >From the Oxford English Dictionary:
> dompe == dumpe
>    3. A mournful or plaintive melody or song; also, by extension, a tune
>    in general; sometimes app. used for a kind of dance. Obs.
>      * A. 1553 Udall Royster D. ii. i. (Arb.) 32 Then twang with our
>        sonets, and twang with our dumps, And heyhough from our heart, as
>        heauie as lead lumpes.
>      * A. 1586 Sidney Sonn. in Arb. Garner II. 180 Some good old dumpe,
>        that Chaucers mistresse knew.
>      * 1591 Shaks. Two Gent. iii. ii. 85 To their Instruments Tune a
>        deploring dumpe.
>      * 1610 Holland Camden's Brit. i. 421 The funerall Song or Dump of a
>        most ancient British Bard.
>      * 1706 Addison Rosamond i. iv, What heart of stone Can hear her
>        moan, And not in dumps so doleful join?
>      * A. 1852 Moore Vision ii. 33 Like..an Irish Dump (`the words by
>        Moore') At an amateur concert screamed in score.
> There is at least one Dowland piece titled <Soandso's> Dump.
> -- Tibicen, OED fan
>    tibicen at carolingia.org
Brendan Pilgrim                       poet, rogue, scholar, and foole
http://come.to/your.pilgrim       rygbee(at)montana(dot)com
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Also a fan of the OED -- just wish they'd bring the cost of the CD version
down the way encyclopedia publishers have.  (Of course, the difference is,
encyclopedia publishers have competitors, but no one else can match the

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