FWD: Re: What filk *isn't* (was minstrel: Re: To All Filkers )

[Crystal Simpson]

I think that their are two ideas here that are different.  I thought that Filk referred to any piece that was new words to an old tune.   While this person (I am sorry, I forgot who sent this initially) uses the term Filf to refer to something else.  Actually, I am not really sure what you definition is.

To me, you are lumping a number of things in together, and I thought that I would lay them out as I think of them.

1) Boyscout songs - these are songs that while they may be cute, they have nothing to do with the SCA and seem to be more appropriate for teenage boys around a campfire.  I definitely agree that these do not belong in public areas at SCA events.

2) Filk "Outside looking in" (I really like that title, I think I will start referring to them that way) like "God rest ye merry autocrat".  I have always thought of these as "Denny's Songs" similar to what you are referring to as "Post Revel Songs" basically, related to the SCA, but NOT midieval in any way.  Best to do these at some non-event sca-dian gathering.

3) Midieval-like - but not period.  The people that I have been singing with locally and I have discussed what we think is appropriate for events.  We came to the conclusion that we felt like, it was okay to perform a piece at an event "if it did NOT yank the average SCA-dian back to modern life".  ex: no mention of cars, events, etc.  Now granted, if you are a scholar of period music, you will be able to differentiate between period and Midieval-Like music, and you might think that anything not actually period yanks you back to modern. But, we were considering the average ansteorrean for this purpose.  Now, in my opinion, there are many things that fall into this category - which includes most original pieces, filks (original words to existing music), many "folk" songs, etc.

4) Period.  Actual documentable period pieces.

>From what I have seen, at most events in Ansteorra, public bardic circles consist of about 1% Type 1&2, 80% Midieval-like music and 19% Period music.  Does anyone from Ansteorra have a different opinion on that?  Do other kingdoms have a higher proportion of Period songs?

Crystal
Ansteorra

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> Part of why I really don't like hearing filk at events is that the
> majority of it *is* from the outside-looking-in perspective.  That
> makes it interesting and revelent to us as people, but it's *really*
> at odds with the atmosphere.



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