minstrel: aid for baby bards
pendar at unm.edu
Tue Mar 11 07:27:01 PST 1997
On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Joshua Kronengold wrote:
> Thank you, Heather -- Bou said what I wanted to say, but better, as
> well as more politely.
> I apologize for the flamey content of the previous post
> (though not to the original poster, I'm afraid, I still find the
> statements that you should "not try to teach, because anyone who can't
> learn the bardic arts on their own is never going to be any good anyway"
WHAT!?!? That is NOT what I said. What I said is that Bardic skills
cannot be taught (because) The person learning them must motivate
themselves to learn them on their own. I never said anything about them
"never going to be good anyway."
Repeatedly over the last several years I have been approached by people
who wish to learn songs or bardic skills of various sorts from me. I give
them what I can, and often nothing comes of it because they don't
practice. Thus I have become fairly cynical towards the whole teaching
process. I can give you the materials and the knowledge, but it is up to
YOU to put it to use. That last line is exactly what I meant by my
statement and not "they'll never be any good anyway." You are jumping
down my throat for something YOU misunderstood.
> and "don't give feedback, because all neobards have fragile egos and
> will be driven away by the faintest hint that their works aren't the
Generally, yes, this is true. I'm glad you disagree with it, it shows you
are not as cynical and jaded about it as I am, but I tend to treat all
new bards as unpolished silver. You can polish it into something
beautiful and shining or beat it into a dented mess. The majority of the
new bards I have met are frightened that they may be doing something
wrong. Giving them criticism at this time is only going to do make them
think twice before performing again.
and in any case, it won't do any good, because the bardic arts
> can't be taught strongly offensive) to all of the readers of the
> Minstrel list who didn't really need to read that.
I didn't say they couldn't be learned, only that they couldn't be taught.
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