hist-games: Thomas Hyde's Chinese hunt game

M Winther mwi9 at swipnet.se
Wed Apr 11 05:40:48 PDT 2012


I've got it now. The only addition needed is that stalemate against 
the side of the board also counts as win. I think it is a clever 
game.Please download again:
http://hem.passagen.se/melki9/SubjugatioRebellium.zip


Mats


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M Winther" <mwi9 at swipnet.se>
To: <hist-games at www.pbm.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: hist-games: Thomas Hyde's Chinese hunt game


> But now I have realized that the win becomes trivial if the general
> isn't allowed to capture while standing still. So my proposed rule
> change doesn't work.
>
> Mats
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "M Winther" <mwi9 at swipnet.se>
> To: <hist-games at www.pbm.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: hist-games: Thomas Hyde's Chinese hunt game
>
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> On below link is an implementation of Subjugatum Rebellium 
>> according
>> to the rules proposed. It does not play well with the rebels, but 
>> it
>> doesn't matter since the rebels should be handled by the human
>> player.
>> The implementation could also be used to investigate the game (or
>> for
>> online play). I implemented the privy rule so that it's enough to
>> enclose the General inside the privy in order to win. This is
>> effectively the same as forcing him to the apex. However, I found
>> that
>> the General cannot be forced to go inside the privy since he can
>> stand
>> still while capturing. If the General is positioned on the border 
>> of
>> the privy the rebels cannot force him to enter, because if they
>> surround him, both pieces will be captured.
>>
>> So I propose this change: the General can only make this odd form 
>> of
>> capture in the first move. Simply remove two of the stones
>> surrounding
>> the General. Such special first-move rules are known, for instance,
>> in
>> Rimau-rimau (Asian Tiger games) where chosen pieces are immediately
>> removed from the board. Note: I implemented this as an alternative
>> variant. Please try it out.
>> http://hem.passagen.se/melki9/SubjugatioRebellium.zip
>>
>> Mats Winther
>> http://hem.passagen.se/melki9/index.htm
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "reid robert" <reidrobert7 at yahoo.fr>
>> To: <hist-games at www.pbm.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:51 PM
>> Subject: hist-games: Thomas Hyde's Chinese hunt game
>>
>>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> In his De Ludis Orientalibus Thomas Hyde describes a Chinese game 
>> of
>> the 'hunt' variety which he calls 'Ludus Subjugandi Rebelles'. I've
>> attempted to derive some playable rules for the game from Hyde's
>> description - see pdf at:
>>
>> https://acrobat.com/#d=cP6d4G*3LksrO-NX9bKQRw
>>
>> I hope it's of some interest to you.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Robert.
>>
>>
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