hist-games: Thomas Hyde's Chinese hunt game

M Winther mwi9 at swipnet.se
Wed Apr 11 03:57:50 PDT 2012


But now I have realized that the win becomes trivial if the general 
isn't allowed to capture while standing still. So my proposed rule 
change doesn't work.

Mats

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M Winther" <mwi9 at swipnet.se>
To: <hist-games at www.pbm.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: hist-games: Thomas Hyde's Chinese hunt game


> Hello!
>
> On below link is an implementation of Subjugatum Rebellium according
> to the rules proposed. It does not play well with the rebels, but it
> doesn't matter since the rebels should be handled by the human 
> player.
> The implementation could also be used to investigate the game (or 
> for
> online play). I implemented the privy rule so that it's enough to
> enclose the General inside the privy in order to win. This is
> effectively the same as forcing him to the apex. However, I found 
> that
> the General cannot be forced to go inside the privy since he can 
> stand
> still while capturing. If the General is positioned on the border of
> the privy the rebels cannot force him to enter, because if they
> surround him, both pieces will be captured.
>
> So I propose this change: the General can only make this odd form of
> capture in the first move. Simply remove two of the stones 
> surrounding
> the General. Such special first-move rules are known, for instance, 
> in
> Rimau-rimau (Asian Tiger games) where chosen pieces are immediately
> removed from the board. Note: I implemented this as an alternative
> variant. Please try it out.
> http://hem.passagen.se/melki9/SubjugatioRebellium.zip
>
> Mats Winther
> http://hem.passagen.se/melki9/index.htm
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "reid robert" <reidrobert7 at yahoo.fr>
> To: <hist-games at www.pbm.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:51 PM
> Subject: hist-games: Thomas Hyde's Chinese hunt game
>
>
> Dear Members,
>
> In his De Ludis Orientalibus Thomas Hyde describes a Chinese game of
> the 'hunt' variety which he calls 'Ludus Subjugandi Rebelles'. I've
> attempted to derive some playable rules for the game from Hyde's
> description - see pdf at:
>
> https://acrobat.com/#d=cP6d4G*3LksrO-NX9bKQRw
>
> I hope it's of some interest to you.
>
> Best,
>
> Robert.
>
>
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