hist-games: Introduction of cards to Europe

Michael J. Hurst mjhurst at earthlink.net
Mon Dec 8 11:02:24 PST 2003

A while back, Michael McKay posted a link to the site, http://www.trionfi.com.

There's a page on that site discussing the origin of the name "Karnoffel", and within
that discussion, the author suggests that there was a more direct link between the
Arabic origin of playing cards and German cards than transmission via Spain and

Opinion to the Origin of the word Karnoeffel

I was wondering if anyone had any comments on either of those avenues of transmission
of cards to Germany, whether this second possible point of entry has been discussed
anywhere else, how much credence to give this theory, etc. I recall (vaguely) an old
German deck with polo sticks as one of the suit signs, which seems consistent with
this theory...

Any comments would be appreciated.

Best regards,

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