hist-games: FW: "game of the palm"

Brent Hanner behanner at castleliechtenstein.net
Mon Jul 3 21:13:08 PDT 2000

Thierry Depaulis wrote:
> Wouldn't it be a mere translation of "jeu de paume", i.e. real tennis?
> The problem is that we have no evidence for the game before the *late 13th
> century* (J.-M. Mehl, Les jeux au royaume de France, XIIIe-XVIe siecle,
> Paris, 1990).
> Are you, Jim, able to quote any *serious* 12th-century reference?

The earliest attributed mention of the game is from early 13th century
but it is from a morality tale based on an actual person.  But your
right the earliest mention of it directly as a game is late 13th
century.  Anyone interested in the history of early tennis should read
Tennis: A cultural history by Gillmeister.  While I disagree with his
general theory about some of the connections between ball games and
tournaments I think his research is impeccable.


P.S.  Sorry Thierry about the double note.
"So fashioned is a woman's mind:  though she be young or old, I find,
 she likes to have a lot of dresses.  It is not enough if she possesses
 the things, they are not just to wear but rather so she can declare,
 "I could have, you know, be better dressed than many who always wear
their best.""

Service of Ladies by Ulrich von Lichtenstien

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