On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:54:32 EST, JazzboBob at aol.com wrote: >Also, what is a Kiver? I'm guessing it was some type of fermentor or barrel? According to http://www.mewslade.freeserve.co.uk/glossary.htm it is a shallow wooden tub -- Andy Davison andy.davison at btinternet.com