hist-brewing: healing beers

adam larsen euphonic at flash.net
Wed Aug 16 14:56:45 PDT 2000

    I for one don't feel offended and i doubt that any others on the
list would consider them selves as such.  Rather, i just disagree with
the new age approach to brewing.  If you enjoy the recipes listed in
Healing Beers then certainly that is a good thing.
    It should bear mentioning however that for ales meant simply for
enjoyment or sustenance far better and more reliable methods can be
found in the living brewing traditions of various parts of the world.
Latvian, Baltic and Nordic traditions use the herbs you mentioned as
well as many others and when properly made produce a well balanced and
nutrient rich beverage that would never meet the purity laws of German
or Albion.  In terms of history, throughout all of Europa and the
Americas one can find numerous exotic and fine unhopped ales and other
curious beverages.
Plenty of fine information in this subject can be found within the
archives of this list.
    In terms of the curative powers of ales, real and imagined, one
could identify several vintage recipes from numerous sources.  Explicit
sources with reliable brewing information are rather rare but as a
starting point i would recommend T.C. Winculth's "Brewing Health
Fortifying Ales"  which was originally published back in c. 1656 and was
reissued in 1970 so you should keep an eye out for it in book scout
catalogs.   If i can dig up my note book on the subject i'll fire off an

It gives my great pleasure to announce that i have found an American
source for Wood Sage which is reasonably priced at nine dollars per
pound!  The company is called DAAN  and can be reached at  877 322 6l68
(ask for Susan).  Wood sage is an excellent hop surrogate which has a
pleasant aroma to boot.  It's pretty common in the Baltic's and Germany
and not medicinal like "berghopfen" and cheaper by far.  You ought to
used it as a tea in conjunction with centaury, comfrey, yarrow and/or

Marty Twombly wrote:

>  i had no wish to affend people on the list. true the book provides
> little to no information on peroid brewing. it does have a abundance
> of  information on herbs in brewing and what there attributes are if
> brewed with. i have made several of the recipes adn they had the
> desired effect it also opens new ave. for exploration into somthing
> other then ginger,juniper berries ext.
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: adam larsen
>      To: Marty Twombly ; hist-brewing at pbm.com
>      Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 10:27 AM
>      Subject: Re: hist-brewing: healing beers
>           I have had the misfortune to go through the book
>      mentioned below and simply can't recommend it for folks
>      interested in making historical ales.  The author recommends
>      the use of  a couple of  herbs that are dangerous and
>      obviously has a poor understanding of the chemistry involved
>      in  brewing and malting.  He writes not from the perspective
>      of a antiquarian researcher but rather a new age herbalist.
>      Although i have not attempted to make any of his recipes
>      several appear at first blush to be rather poorly conceived.
>          A fine writer belongs to this list named Cindy Renfrow
>      who has written some of the finest material available on
>      historical brewing.  Her web site is: www.thousandeggs.com.
>      Another good source for information is the archives of this
>      list.
>      Marty Twombly wrote:
>     > > the book to look for is Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers
>     > by Stephen Harrod
>     > > Buhner
>     > > ----- Original Message -----
>     > > From: <CBlackwill at aol.com>
>     > > To: <Twombly_marty at hotmail.com>
>     > > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 9:35 PM
>     > > Subject: Re: hist-brewing: Re: Hello
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > > In a message dated 00-08-11 10:41:38 EDT, you write:
>     > > >
>     > > > > i enjoy mead but not enouf to be stuck with 5 gall
>     > and my wife doesn't
>     > > like
>     > > > >  it at all.  we brew a lot of healing beers using
>     > herbs.  one of my
>     > > favorite
>     > > > >  is porter
>     > > >
>     > > > "Healing Beers"?  You've got to be kidding me, right?
>     > If you've managed
>     > > to
>     > > > make a "beer" that can "heal", I will give you the
>     > Nobel Prize myself!!!
>     > > I
>     > > > knew that if I prayed hard and long enough, someone
>     > would tell me "beer is
>     > > > really good for you".
>     > > >
>     > > > Balthazar of Blackmoor
>     > > > (hands firmly clasped and raised to the heavens in awe
>     > and gratitude..."
>     > > >
>     > >
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