hist-brewing: Gruit Ingredients found (2/3 ain't bad!)

Richard Richard at WowMe.com
Mon Jan 10 20:43:55 PST 2000


I know there are some nasty effects to Ergot in it's raw form, but the lysergic acid in Morning Glory seeds and in Hawaiian Baby Woodrose plants doesn't have ergot.  That is something, as brewers, we should be concerned about growing on our grains.  The Lysergic compounds themselves don't cause gangrene, but also don't have much effect unless eaten in numbers that would make a billygoat puke.  It's pretty much an issue of synthesizing it from the raw materials, and I for one, am not a chemist, though it would be interesting to learn what role lysergic acid had played, historically, in brewing.

Richard
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Richens" <srichens at sprint.ca>
To: "Richard" <Richard at WowMe.com>; "John Purdy" <John_Purdy at Jabil.com>; <hist-brewing at pbm.com>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 21:30 Richard
Subject: Re: hist-brewing: Gruit Ingredients found (2/3 ain't bad!)


> I remember that only certain strains of morning glory have entertainment
> potential, but I have no idea what lysergic acid-related compounds are
> found in the other strains.
> 
> Given that the side effects of excess ergotamine or lysergic acid include
> gangrene of the limbs, I'll pass, thank you very much, until I hear
> otherwise from a very reliable source.
> 
> Sean
> 
> ----------
> From: Richard <Richard at WowMe.com>
> To: John Purdy <John_Purdy at Jabil.com>; hist-brewing at pbm.com
> Subject: Re: hist-brewing: Gruit Ingredients found (2/3 ain't bad!)
> Date: January 10, 2000 7:07
> 
> Neither of these is the morning glory that contains lysergic acid.  Or am I
> wrong?  My understanding is that morning glory in beer causes sever
> diarrhea and that is why it was never historically used.  Is this correct?
> 
> Richard
> Crystal Sky Productions
> http://www.WowMe.com
> Home of Santa's Cows!
> http://www.WowMe.com/xmas
> Have fun and pass it along!
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Purdy" <John_Purdy at Jabil.com>
> To: <hist-brewing at pbm.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 15:58 Richard
> Subject: hist-brewing: Gruit Ingredients found (2/3 ain't bad!)
> 
> 
> > Did I not post this while we were going over the issue like madpersons?  
> > 
> > http://herbalchemy.com/BULKHERB.HTM <http://herbalchemy.com/BULKHERB.HTM>
> 
> > 
> > Over 1,500 herbs listed, including these entries : 
> > yarrow flowers whole 4.75 
> > yarrow flowers powder 5.80 
> > bayberry root bark bayberry root bark powder 22.55 bayberry root bark
> > bayberry root bark cs 13.45 
> > 
> > And for the more daring : 
> > morning glory wu zhao long whole 3.50 
> > morning glory seed qian niu zi powder 3.50 
> > morning glory seed qian niu zi extract 100gm 8.70 
> > morning glory seed qian niu zi whole 3.30 
> 
> 
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