academie: Re: acedemie: Sorry, wrong room.
scavard at hotmail.com
Wed Jan 17 07:55:07 PST 2001
>I don't speak much, however, I wanted to share my two pence on this. I
>pray that it will not offend anyone.
Worry not, we're all friends here. I'm certain the Academie can have a
spirited discussion without anyone taking anything personally. ;)
>The impression did come across to several gentles there was suppression of
>post-period dances at 12th Night by the academie.
That's unfortunate. It is my understanding that the GOOP dances were all
grouped into the second set by the dance coordinator after consultation with
the band, but prior to any involvement by the Academie. My understanding is
that the band did not desire to play those tunes, so the dances were shifted
to the set where the band would not be playing. The Academie as a whole had
very little, if anything, to do with dance selection or their order.
The "suppression" you mention didn't really happen, although I can
understand how that impression might get promulgated internally, based on
the response I provided when Lord James asked for comments regarding the
final set list. Curiously enough, the audience for that response was very
small, limited to just James, Arcturus, the band, the Academie, and perhaps
one or two other Gentles. The general populace was not a party to that
>I might not like clogging as much as ballet but I am going to support that
>student that does like clogging...
As many of us like period dance *and* modern dance. I happen to like Swing,
even though I haven't a prayer of ever being good at it. (Poor Judith, she
has the patience of a Saint when we go Swing dancing.) But that does not
mean that I should break into a Lindy Hop in the middle of a Twelfth Night
ball. Things have their place.
Is Vard anti-GOOP? Nope, not at all. In fact, I happen to like them quite
a bit. They're fun. In the hotel bar after K12N, Etain and I danced "Road
to the Isles" to some disco tune, I have been seen dancing "Korobushka" to
'Kharma Chamelion', and I have taught "Hole in the Wall" and "Female Sailor"
at dance practices. But consistently through each of these examples, the
dances have either been done in non-SCA settings or I've made a point to
indicate they were GOOP. I didn't always do things this way, but now I that
I better-understand the difference between period and non-period dance, I
can work on educating myself and those whom I teach. I'm not perfect, I
still teach and enjoy Black Nag and Sellenger's Round, even though by my own
rationalizations they're OOP, and there's a whole argument for/against
Playford that I'll not get into here.
The point I guess I'm trying to make is that there is nothing inhererntly
*wrong* with any particular style of dance, including GOOP dances. The only
beef I have, and I think it's a reasonable one, is that GOOP dances are
sometimes erroneously passed-off as being period. I know GOOP dances are
fun and popular, and that they're going to be with us for a very, very long
time to come. But if they are done in a setting where all of the dances are
assumed to be period, I believe it reasonable to ask that they be done with
The error I made, and one that I sincerely regret, was that instead of
*asking* that the GOOP dances at K12N be disclaimed or removed, I
*insisted*, and I implied that the Academie supported this insistance. As a
result, we may have permanently lost a valuable member, as I gave her the
impression that the Academie is exclusionary, elitist, and snobbish. That
was my fault, and I have to live with both the consequences of that action
and the burden that it has placed on my conscience. I will strive to do
better in the future.
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